Short-term memory problems?

poseidon · #1 08-23-2001, 10:14 AM

It would seem as if the DNC has some very short term memory problems.

In a recent interview, the current DNC leader, Terry McAuliff (spelling?) chided Elizabeth Dole for considering a run for the outgoing Jesse Helms' soon-to-be-open Senate seat.

He stated that she's not lived in North Carolina for over thirty years. He then questioned whether or not she's been voting there, and suggested that if she had then she was involved in some serious illegal activities.

I don't recall McAuliff chiding Hillary for a run for the NY seat in the Senate. As my memory serves, Hillary had not only not lived in New York for the last thirty years, but prior to her run for the Senate, she had never -- ever -- lived in New York.

I just find this interesting and was wondering if anyone caught this and if they had any thoughts to the matter?

Jeff
who doesn't care for Dole but still thinks this was a silly speech.

**drmomentum**[$] · #2 08-23-2001, 10:23 AM

Short term memory is memory covering the last 20 seconds or so.

It sounds like McAuliff is suggesting that if Dole had been voting in NC, that would have been a problem. The situation is not analogous to Clinton because, as you point out, Hilary had never lived in New York, and so had not been voting there. But then again, who cares?

-JP

poseidon · #3 08-23-2001, 10:37 AM

JP,

Actually the "gee I wonder if she's voting" seemed to be an afterthought -- his main comment was that she didn't live in NC for thirty years and thus wasn't in touch with the needs of the people in NC.

My guess was the "gee I wonder if she's voting" was just a convenient way to smear her -- and without proof that she's voting as a North Carolinian, I think that's a hit that landed a little below the belt.

wivabef · #4 08-23-2001, 11:07 AM

I'm in the who cares department. Hillary got elected, not appointed. So obviously the people in NY, who were definitely aware Hillary was no New Yorker, voted for her because they liked the idea of her representing the state. And she qualified for residency by purchasing a house there. As a resident of a no sales tax no income tax state with really cheap motor vehicle registration and minimal insurance requirements, I can tell you a whole lot of people "live" in NH while not actually living "in" NH.

I feel sorry for the people of NY -- but I don't begrudge them their right to vote in an intelligent, capable woman with questionable ethics. Sounds like a whole lot of New Yorkers. Woody Allen probably could have won.

Anyhoo --

I will say (and Erik, you can pick yourself up from the floor in a moment) that anybody who ever whined about Hillary not being a New Yorker and that was a reason she shouldn't run there should not be defending Elizabeth Dole.

On the other hand, anybody who said "Hey, groovy that Hillary is running in New York" (Terry "Hand-picked by Clinton" McAuliffe) should not be raising questions about Elizabeth Dole. Federal Employees and families of Federal Employees are allowed to vote in their home state with no limitations on how long you've been away. If you live in DC (as the Dole's do) and work for the Government (as the Dole's did) you can still be considered a resident of your "home state" without even maintaining an address there.

At least she has the accent for North Carolina.

CeeJay62 · #5 08-23-2001, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by poseidon
It would seem as if the DNC has some very short term memory problems.

I just find this interesting and was wondering if anyone caught this and if they had any thoughts to the matter?

It's just that deliberately obtuse thing again. I am sure Terry McAuliffe is a very bright man and is fully cognizant of the similarities between the Clinton and Dole situations, but he just plows ahead with his propaganda anyway, thinking he can get a pass as long as he pretends he doesn't notice.

This reminds me of another situation going on right now. The Democrats are trying to blame the Bush tax cut for the surplus shrinking (which is whole other issue for another thread), BUT while they are bashing Bush for the tax cuts, they are also running ads (funded by the DNC) in two states (South Dakota and whatever state Max Baccus if from) taking credit for the tax cuts. I suppose they were hoping no one would notice.

**drmomentum**[$] · #6 08-23-2001, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by wivabef
I will say (and Erik, you can pick yourself up from the floor in a moment) that anybody who ever whined about Hillary not being a New Yorker and that was a reason she shouldn't run there should not be defending Elizabeth Dole.

I'll have to put myself in the "who cares" column for both Dole and Clinton. Now and then.

-JP

frazzledspice · #7 08-23-2001, 12:52 PM

Have we forgotten that Cheney took the red eye flight out of Texas to Wyoming so that he could change his address in order to qualify to be Vice-President? (Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates must come from different states.)

Elizabeth Dole is a Republican I really like. And, considering the "experience" of her predecessor, I am certain she will bring energy, vitality, and new ideas to her job.

Her husband, a senior citizen himself, would be a great campaigner for her. From the Viagra commercials to his jogging every day, I'm sure he'll be running strong into his 90's, just like Helms.

**drmomentum**[$] · #8 08-23-2001, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by frazzledspice
Her husband, a senior citizen himself, would be a great campaigner for her. From the Viagra commercials to his jogging every day, I'm sure he'll be running strong into his 90's, just like Helms.

Don't forget those Pepsi commercials. That ain't senior citizen Liddy Dole he's ogling and muttering "down boy" about.

-JP