New Mexico's Democratic Primary

erik_kosberg · #1 02-06-2008, 01:58 PM

I guess every vote really does count. Look how close the race was.

realtraveller · #2 02-07-2008, 12:14 PM

What's with New Mexico? In 2000, with 'lost' ballots coming out of closets, Gore won with just 180 or so votes. Could the same shenanigans be going on now?

**pippadaisy**[$] · #3 02-07-2008, 05:26 PM

Can someone explain to me why the hell 412 people found it necessary to leave their houses, go vote, and then say they COULDN'T DECIDE???

**drmomentum**[$] · #4 02-07-2008, 05:50 PM

Maybe they felt strongly about not liking any of the candidates. I know lots of people like that. This year, lots of them are conservatives.

frazzledspice · #5 02-08-2008, 08:53 AM

Governor Richardson looks so much more distinguished with his beard. I really think his candidacy would have lasted longer if he had grown it a little earlier.

He wasn't charismatic, but I thought his experience as Secretary of Energy, Ambassador to the UN, and Governor probably made him the most qualified candidate to be President on either side of the aisle. I always enjoyed listening to his ideas, and hope he has a place on the Democratic ticket or in the Cabinet, if a Democrat wins.

Right now, it's Clinton 13, Obama 12, and so, even if the recount changes things, it's only likely to give them a flip-flop.

**pippadaisy**[$] · #6 02-08-2008, 10:40 PM

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drmomentum said

Maybe they felt strongly about not liking any of the candidates. I know lots of people like that. This year, lots of them are conservatives.

Then do a write-in, for Pete's sake.

**drmomentum**[$] · #7 02-09-2008, 10:28 AM

Write-ins are not always counted. I know of a case where 3 people wrote in a candidate in one precinct and the candidate was recorded as having no votes in that precinct. This was someone who did not have time to get on the ballot in MA, running against Sen. Kerry's seat in 2002.

When we complained, they told us that only the candidate could ask for a recount, and the candidate never requested it.

-JP

wivabef · #8 02-09-2008, 12:28 PM

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pippadaisy said

Can someone explain to me why the hell 412 people found it necessary to leave their houses, go vote, and then say they COULDN'T DECIDE???

In Maryland, there is more than just presidential voting that occurs during the primary. Perhaps they were also choosing congressional candidates. Right now, I'm in a very strange part of a predominantly democrat state... district 1. The incumbent, Wayne Gilchrest is considered too liberal. So, we have all these attack ads from E.J. "Marriage is between a man and a woman" Pipkin and Dr. Andy "ENdorsed by the Club for Growth" Harris and not even left enough to be a centrist Gilchrest all accusing the other of being Nancy Pelosi and Gov. O'Malley's love child.

So though McCain is the nearly anointed choice for Presidential nominee, there should be a pretty good turnout in District 1 to determine "Qui es Muy Conservato?"

erik_kosberg · #9 02-09-2008, 12:42 PM

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pippadaisy said

Can someone explain to me why the hell 412 people found it necessary to leave their houses, go vote, and then say they COULDN'T DECIDE???

FWIW, just in my precinct caucus, 5 people voted "Uncommitted" instead of Clinton (115 votes) or Obama (265).

**pippadaisy**[$] · #10 02-10-2008, 12:53 AM

A caucus I guess I can understand. You may head in not entirely sure, and hoping you'll hear something that will sway you one way or another. But a primary? You schlep to the polls to pull the levers.

And I think y'all need to get our antiquated voting booths. At least they usually work. And record the write-in candidates.

**jgibson2**[$] · #11 02-10-2008, 02:08 AM

Elyzabeth is right. I really feel like voting "none of the above" for president, but instead will vote for the unelectable Ron Paul.

One big issue in our district is gerrymandering. The district starts on Maryland's eastern shore, traipses across Anne Arundel County, and wanders into Baltimore county.

Early on, the pollsters called and asked if I didn't think that folks on the Eastern Shore should be represented by someone from there. I started out saying that I thought that was reasonable, but that AA county should also be represented locally. When they got pushy about either Gilchrest or Pipkin (both from the eastern shore) being the better choice, I started saying "I don't give a damn about the eastern shore, I want a local representative." Harris isn't from AA county either, though.

realtraveller · #12 02-11-2008, 11:42 AM

CNN.com this morning. They're still counting. (They've run out of fingers and toes, I suppose).

erik_kosberg · #13 02-11-2008, 11:50 AM

At least it's not the Washington GOP caucus.

**drmomentum**[$] · #14 02-11-2008, 05:19 PM

Seriously, at least they are counting. In Washington Republican primaries, they just wait until it gets close to the % error and flip a coin. ('course, it's a two-headed coin.)

One thing I'm happy about is that with all the pressure the Bush administration put onto the judicial system to squeeze out some sort of scandal regarding Democratic-leaning voter fraud, looks like we can rest our heads that there is any lurking, hidden, Democratic voter fraud. The benefit of having Republican watchdogs on the job.

erik_kosberg · #15 02-15-2008, 01:26 PM

In New Mexico, the winner is Clinton.