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08-08-2007, 02:33 PM
|  | Got my hands over my eyes | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Maryland
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| | Quote: slick4591 said
| Doesn't work for the neighbor's dogs. No reason to think it would work for Bug. Sure wouldn't have worked for my oldest.
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08-08-2007, 02:35 PM
|  | Got my hands over my eyes | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Maryland
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| | Quote: Prepoia said
Just put a simple chain lock at adult eye level. None of the kids can leave without you knowing it.
(My sister in law actually put one of these on the outside of her child's bedroom door so she couldn't get out! but I don't think that's a great idea). | Your kids clearly weren't escape artists.
Your sister's were. Ask her about the chain at adult eye level. And climbing.
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08-08-2007, 02:37 PM
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| | Quote: mjfrombuffalo said
Not a chain-link, but a sliding bolt on the OUTSIDE of his bedroom door might be necessary and effective. Note: it is NOT child abuse to lock a child in his/her bedroom for short periods of time (e.g., not all day) while parents are awake and otherwise occupied, and where parental distraction combined with child hyperactivity can create a hazardous situation for an unconfined child. | This gives them altogether too much time to figure out the windows.
Don't think I'm kidding.
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08-08-2007, 02:41 PM
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| | I put a double cylinder deadbolt on the front door and hid a key near it. That lasted until the child found the key. Height above his head made NO difference for hiding place, so that only worked a short time.
Alarms? They didn't make them then, but he'd have learned how to disable them, so no point wasting your time. I did use 2 gates, one above the other, to keep him in his room for short periods -- until he learned to remove them with brute force.
The best solution, if you can afford it, is to hire a local kid to watch them for short periods of time while you're home so you can do things like shower and cook dinner. It's the only thing that really works. Kid only has to be 10 or 11 if you're in the house. They do have to be very focused, though.
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08-08-2007, 02:45 PM
|  | In Spanish, I'm Marijuana | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lawn-Guy-Land, NY
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| | I would just like to state again for the record how happy I am that I have cats.
__________________ MJ It's extraordinary to me that the United States can find $700 billion to save Wall Street and the entire G8 can't find $25 billion dollars to save 25,000 children who die every day from preventable diseases.~ Bono | 
08-08-2007, 02:48 PM
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| | And I'll state how happy I am that I didn't have climbers....unless you are talking about my daughter and the 60 foot (or more) tree she insisted on climbing all the time (but not in the winter  so I got a break once in awhile. | 
08-08-2007, 04:09 PM
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08-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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| | holy crap, there really IS a human hamster ball.
__________________ MJ It's extraordinary to me that the United States can find $700 billion to save Wall Street and the entire G8 can't find $25 billion dollars to save 25,000 children who die every day from preventable diseases.~ Bono | 
08-08-2007, 07:10 PM
|  | thread-killa | | Join Date: Dec 2000
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| | Yeah, but Zorb is EXPENSIVE. And Bug is really small... he doesn't need that much space. I could work with a smaller hamster ball.
Judy... shhhh! That's my next fear! the boys have the easiest room to break into/out of. | 
08-08-2007, 08:09 PM
|  | Mom of the Four Men | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada, sort of
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| | Pippa, be very, very afraid. #2's window leads out onto the smaller roof in front. Seeing a three-year old sitting on the roof eating peanut butter from the jar is not what you want to see.
Oh, and shouting to the neighbours. Don't forget that. Jduy gets that these are not 'bad' kids, btw. They just have no impulse control, and a really good imagination. They're really intelligent, too - look at Bridgette. So, locks, alarms, containers- all are nothing more than challenges. #2 even managed to unclip his leash from his harness, and attach it to the stroller. I didn't realize it until he ran away through a parking lot.  | 
08-08-2007, 08:10 PM
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| | Don't worry....they'll get to that about 12-15 years old  | 
08-08-2007, 09:25 PM
|  | thread-killa | | Join Date: Dec 2000
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| | We have a ranch. I thank god for it daily with him. And Butter. Who I found perched on her high chair tray tossing food at sibs when I returned from getting them all drinks. | 
08-08-2007, 09:27 PM
|  | thread-killa | | Join Date: Dec 2000
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| | Cindy, I know you are trying to make me feel better, but I've decided I'm now more frightened. And I view the gates as a stop-gap. The door alarm may be another stop-gap. I'm just hoping prison isn't the final stop-gap. | 
08-09-2007, 12:00 AM
|  | Got my hands over my eyes | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Maryland
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| | I'm telling you, hire an assistant. 12 year olds work cheap. Some of them like to play with little kids and it's cheaper than buying all that stuff that doesn't work anyway.
Window. Won't be long. Mine were 1.5 and 3.
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08-09-2007, 01:42 AM
|  | Mom of the Four Men | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada, sort of
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| | Yep, underage workers are the ticket. We loved our Gary when he was young and foolish.  | 
08-09-2007, 01:42 AM
|  | Mom of the Four Men | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada, sort of
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| | Btw, how old is Bug? And do you have really good harnesses for Butter? | 
08-09-2007, 02:42 AM
|  | Got my hands over my eyes | | Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Maryland
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| | Quote: pippadaisy said
Butter. Who I found perched on her high chair tray tossing food at sibs when I returned from getting them all drinks. | I did find a solution to keeping my oldest in his car seat, grocery cart, anything with a divider between his legs. I tied his shoe laces together. This required high tops at first but eventually he quit trying because he'd learned that if there was some kind of bar or strap between his legs, his feet just wouldn't fit past it.
I may still have the ankle straps I used to keep my youngest from diving out of his backpack.
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08-09-2007, 02:56 AM
|  | Mom of the Four Men | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada, sort of
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| | Mothercare harness. It's why there still is a #2. It buckled behind his back,m so even he couldn't unsnap it. Of course, if we were out in public, sometimes he would grab his chest and pant, and then shout,"I can't breathe!". Evil monster child.  | 
08-09-2007, 09:36 AM
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| | OMG! SCARING ME MORE!
Bug will be 4. Tomorrow.
Judy, do you know how few shoes have TIES now? Butter had ONE pair of sneakers I think she's finally outgrown. All other shoes are velcro or buckle. She's still too small for Chucks, which she wants DESPERATELY. | 
08-09-2007, 10:47 AM
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| | Quote: pippadaisy said
We have a ranch. I thank god for it daily with him. And Butter. Who I found perched on her high chair tray tossing food at sibs when I returned from getting them all drinks. | I'm surprised you weren't getting YOURSELF a drink.
And I'm reading this and thankful that while my children had their moments, it was nothing like the ones I'm reading about. 
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08-09-2007, 12:25 PM
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| | chapter 147 in The Book: Be grateful for boring children. Or, try the Pill. | 
08-09-2007, 12:31 PM
|  | thread-killa | | Join Date: Dec 2000
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| | LOL Lynn. There was one fine Wednesday when G came home from work to have Beanie at the door, cello in hand, saying "YOU have to drive me to my lesson. MOMMY has had ALCOHOL."
To my credit, I DID wait until 4:45 to make the pitcher of Margaritas, but let's just say the tequila is living on the counter this summer instead of in the closet.  | 
08-09-2007, 01:37 PM
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