| A Kiddley Divey Too Discussions about children and child-rearing. |  | | 
08-07-2007, 11:36 PM
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08-07-2007, 11:42 PM
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| | duct tape | 
08-07-2007, 11:45 PM
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| | Leashes for indoor use are underrated.
Putting a chain or latch on the door is an option I'd use. Yes, it'll take a few seconds longer to open in a fire, but the odds of having a fire are apparently lower than the odds of Bug getting hit by a car.
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08-08-2007, 12:06 AM
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| | Oh. My.
I have no advice. You had me at the peeing on the clean clothes. 
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08-08-2007, 12:10 AM
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| | Start with the latch or chain, but make it a teaching thing, too.
General ideas:
Did you tell the big ones to "watch the little ones" or give specific instructions? Give specific instructions. Do not allow your baby brother/sister to go outside. Do not let them color on the walls. Do not let them play in the sockets. And so forth.
Give the group a task or a fun thing to do together inside that keeps the bigs ones focused on the little ones, so that they aren't going to let them escape because they aren't paying attention. Have them read books to the little ones, play restaurant, dust the furniture with socks, whatever.
Teach the big ones that if they can't follow instructions and take care of the little ones, then maybe *they're* not ready for big-people priviledges, either, so maybe for a while they have to, I don't know, hold hands across the street, ask permission before doing certain things, etc. 
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08-08-2007, 12:27 AM
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| | They have door alarms that ring if someone tries to leave. That's #1.
A security chain is not a good thing, unless it is short enough so that heads don't get stuck in them. That's #2.
I'm all for leashes. That is #3
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08-08-2007, 12:33 AM
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| | a door alarm sounds great, but if you're in the shower or drying your hair, you won't hear it. I would probably look into door latches like the hotels have, but the fire escape issue is something.
Beanie and Buster are still little kids, and while I'm sure they love their little brother and sister, they're not really old enough to understand the danger. Duct tape isn't an option, but don't you wish it were? Is your backyard fenced? If so, maybe a latch on the front door and a latch ont he fence that is too high for them to get to? | 
08-08-2007, 12:51 AM
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| | what are bug's sensory and allergy issues again? | 
08-08-2007, 01:02 AM
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| | Zero sensory other than a pathological attraction to near-death experiences. Allergic to milk, eggs, bananas, discipline, and the sound of my voice. | 
08-08-2007, 01:10 AM
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| | lol - wait, I thought the last two were G?  (I kid, I kid) | 
08-08-2007, 01:33 AM
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| | I was fortunate, I didn't have wanderers. I am flummoxed on this one (although, I didn't usually shower until they were in bed... yeah.. I wasn't the best kept)
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08-08-2007, 01:54 AM
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| | That's generally the way it works. But we had a sudden, non-forecasted storm and the jogging stroller and Bug's brand-new scooter were outside getting soaked. I ran out to retrieve toys, etc. and was SOAKED. I'd had the chills all day and couldn't stand a second more with wet hair. I NEVER blow-dry... I have VERY thick hair and it takes way too long.
I have a temporary solution of gates... one at the living room entrance from the foyer and the other blocking access to the foyer at the kitchen. They can access all living areas of the house BUT the foyer and front door. The boys, with enough force, could knock one down, but that I'd hear no matter what. | 
08-08-2007, 01:56 AM
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| | Oh... I should add that Beanie and Buster lost TV and video games for a week. I'm annoyed with the stupid thing anyway (G is the one who has it on CONSTANTLY and Buster has followed his shining example) and the increasingly addictive behavior where they turn it on the second they get up and then sit in front of it slack-jawed and forget where they left their clothes has me ready to toss the thing out the door. | 
08-08-2007, 02:03 AM
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| | I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or send you a big bottle of Sheridan's. or tequila. Except for peeing on the laundry, you have #2.
My back door did not have a knob until he was in 3rd grade. My front door had a pile of empty pop cans in front of it at all times, and I never showered unless he restrained by at least one responsible adult.
As for the butt-smacking, not just yes but hell yes! Each of the Horsemen has had one spanking, and it was for the same thing- running out into the street. Although with #2, I should have been the one getting spanked, since he refused to stop. So, he got a harness with a sturdy leash. He's the one who dressed up with glvoesw and a whistle and stopped traffic in front of my house.
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08-08-2007, 02:07 AM
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| | Brian suggested that perhaps child number 5 will be perfect. I hit him for you. | 
08-08-2007, 02:14 AM
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Because I can laugh at that without fear of karma.  | 
08-08-2007, 02:24 AM
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| | I'm surprised nobody has suggested this. Give in to the idea that they are going to circumvent your efforts to keep them inside.
Dress them in blaze orange and reflective clothing, so they will be seen by cars. If they remove the clothing, there is also day-glo spray paint...
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08-08-2007, 02:44 AM
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| | Quote: drmomentum said
I'm surprised nobody has suggested this. Give in to the idea that they are going to circumvent your efforts to keep them inside.
Dress them in blaze orange and reflective clothing, so they will be seen by cars. If they remove the clothing, there is also day-glo spray paint...
-JP | Did you know that firefighters and police officers often refer to their dayglo reflective vests as "Hit me" vests. Yep. Drunks are attracted to bright colors.
I'd recommend a chain-link fence in the front, but it would only slow Pippa down, not the kids.
Ask me how I know.
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08-08-2007, 11:03 AM
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| | I. Love. My. Kids.
They are bland, dull and boring and completely unimaginitive.
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08-08-2007, 11:19 AM
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| | Pippa, I don't know what kind of doors you have, but would something like this help? | 
08-08-2007, 11:20 AM
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| | or this?
I'm probably underestimating Bug's Houdini skills, but I'm trying.
Some options here. | 
08-08-2007, 11:29 AM
|  | Mom of the Four Men | | Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada, sort of
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| | JP's right. The chain link fence at the park near our house only gave #2 something to climb, making it easier to escape. Because I couldn't climb, I had to go around to the gate.
And when #2 went outside to direct traffic, which just happened to be one of the busiet streets in the city, he was wearing an orange t-shirt. Luckily, the first car was driving slowly. I found him when I heard honking, and I just knew that much honking had to involve #2. | |