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05-22-2001, 04:21 PM
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| | Thank goodness somebody's standing up for us fat girls | | From an article about the Bridget Jones movie:
"Although the Jones character "probably could" lose some weight, Sullivan said, she wouldn't label her overweight. "To Hollywood types, she probably is very heavy," she said. "But if you look around she would be below average on the body composition scale. She looks like the average woman, the average size 8 to 10. She's just kind of voluptuous."
Bwahahahahah!  Somebody tell this Sullivan person that the average American woman is size 14. Really. I find that soooo comforting.
Comments, girls? Guys?
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05-22-2001, 04:29 PM
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| | I remember when I wore a size 14. I think it would be very pleasant to wear those clothes again. But, hey, there's a lot of cool stuff in size 20 and 22 too.
To heck with size 6. People called me scrawny and unhealthy looking when I was a size 6.
What say we wall up Hollywood and just throw them over some soy milk and power bars every week or two?
__________________ Bridgette "There are seven things that will destroy us: Wealth without work; pleasure without conscience; knowledge without character; religion without sacrifice; politics without principle; science without humanity; business without ethics." --Mahatma Gandhi | 
05-22-2001, 04:35 PM
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| | I really don't put too much stock in that whole "average woman" thing to be honest. I don't find it useful to compare my stats with everyone else.
I'm 6'0" tall. It really doesn't matter what I weigh, I will never be close to the average!
Everyone's different. Skinny, fat, tall, short. Life would be boring if we were all the same!
vania | 
05-22-2001, 04:57 PM
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| | I admit that I was a bit miffed when I first picked up Bridgette - and her weight was 124#.
That's my goal weight - and I'm 5'2"! I sat there for a minute, hoping that maybe she was talking stones or some other British measurement, then I shrugged and sipped my beer.
These 10 pounds will either come off or they won't. With or without them, the only difference is my clothes - and how important are clothes anyway? The person inside is the important thing.
K
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05-22-2001, 07:23 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Redlass What say we wall up Hollywood and just throw them over some soy milk and power bars every week or two? | Count me in. It's a lot nicer than what I was thinking! 
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05-23-2001, 09:38 AM
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| | Average | | I had a conversation just last night with my neighbor. Some conversations she and I have really get my goat. She has on occasion expressed to me "how much better I can do" making reference to my girlfriend.
My girlfriend is a tiny thing at a size 6 and she is also on the short end. I adore her daughter as she does my two children and of late things have been a bit stressed by my ex but things with her and I are still very good.
At any rate my girlfriend is very much a Tomboy type. We met through soccer where she was the team's organizer and I was asked to help coach. Because she has this "rough" exterior instead of a silver spoon and fashion of the Kennedy's my posh raised well to do neighbor always relates this to being unattractive. She tells me how good a catch I would make some "nice" girl. Not someone she feels I would be supporting but rather "someone that can bring something into a relationship."
My neighbor has met my ex as well as a couple ladies I dated briefly before hooking up with my girlfriend and they were not "Hollywood starlets short of the century mark on the scale" and in fact one could have easily topped the 200 mark.
We were talking and mention was made by one of my other friends of a girl I dated when he and I were younger and still living in Bermuda, pre-marriage even. I brought out some pictures from Bermuda and my neighbor had me point out some of the girls I had dated. What did I get for it- "see the girls you dated when you were young look to be very attractive, what happened.
Let us not forget beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is far more to beauty than appearances. Some of the most beautiful women I have known were large women, with hearts bigger than many models heads. My mom at one time could have topped the scale near 400 pounds and I am yet to meet "ANYONE" as beautiful as her. Her heart and compassion will smother you more than any weight ever could. She has lost a lot of weight and I am glad for her because it has helped her medically as well as giving her more energy to do the things she loves, spoiling her kids and grand babies being high on that list.
let us not be so judgmental of a careless statement as to what is average and instead focus in on what makes a person special and truly beautiful and you will see that be it a size 3 or size 30 no one is just average. | 
05-23-2001, 09:50 AM
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| | From a man's point-of-view, I'd rather see "voluptuous" than "waif" any day of the week.
I think a woman should look like a woman. Most of these waif-types look like little boys to me. | 
05-23-2001, 10:40 AM
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| | Ken and Dave: :lips: :lips:
BTW, my thread title is a bit ironic: I am the Average size 14 (except where I am size 16).
Dave, tell your neighbor for me to mind her own business.  Sheesh.
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05-23-2001, 03:09 PM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by bermudabum
... Let us not forget beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There is far more to beauty than appearances. Some of the most beautiful women I have known were large women, with hearts bigger than many models heads.
...
let us not be so judgmental of a careless statement as to what is average and instead focus in on what makes a person special and truly beautiful and you will see that be it a size 3 or size 30 no one is just average. |
I only have one question: Will you marry me?!
Actually two questions: If the answer is "No, silly - I don't even know you!" (which makes perfect sense!) - can I clone you?!
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05-23-2001, 06:45 PM
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| | I must admit I felt like screaming while in the store today. Two friends were shopping. One girl is screaming to her friend from the changing room. This of course, got my attention. Her friend starts walking twards the back of the store to the changing rooms, but before she can get there the girl in the changing room screams "see if they have a zero. This size 2 is for an elephant."
Now, after having tried on several dresses today (to find the appropriate one for graduation) I understand the frustration of not finding a dress that fits. However, these girls made me want to curl up and die. I left the store immediately in disgust.
There are two morals to this story:
Skinny girls deserve to suffer too!
or No matter what size you are you still have trouble finding clothes.
I like to think they suffer. | 
05-24-2001, 12:25 AM
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| | The Low-Salary diet never failed me | | I have been on both ends of the weight spectrum ... or maybe not both ends... but certainly the beginning and the middle (Average American Woman)
When I was a single parent of a 2 yr old, my food budget (after diapers & other food for the toddler) was $.25/day. I really subsisted off of tea & cigarettes (why is it that no matter how poor you are, you can afford cigarettes??? -I no longer smoke, but now I can afford to!) Anyway I was a Girls Size 14 or a 3 or a 1 (I never had a waist, but then my chest was a 30A) I weighed in at a whopping 95 lbs -and I was not anorexic. Just poor.
20 years ago I got a job at a Defense Industry Plant and from then on I never had to worry about the cost of food. Add that to quitting smoking 16 years ago -food tasted great for the first time- and Whoomp! There she is! The "Average" American woman.
The good news is that instead of a 30A, I'm now a 38C. That is much preferable to my self esteem. I could take the money out of the "Itty bitty titty kitty" and spend it on something else...
Oh yeah, the point to this boring story: Clothes shopping Sucked. I couldn't find clothes for work in a Girls Size 14, 3's were non-existant in the early 1980's, and now it seems that all the cool looking clothes stop at size 10 (which I doubt I'll ever see again)
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05-24-2001, 01:28 AM
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| | "I only have one question: Will you marry me?!
Actually two questions: If the answer is "No, silly - I don't even know you!" (which makes perfect sense!) - can I clone you?!"
Hello, the girlfriend thingy, lol. I don't think she would approve, and obviously you missed my post on cloning in the soapbox. Whereas I can see the advantages in advancements of cloning such as developing replacement limbs. I can not condone full cloning, or the thought of a "souless" being. Plus I want to be the only me out there. One, is already too much most days. And even on the days where one might not be too much, another me would make me less special.
Maybe if things don't work out with the little bumps we (the gf and I) are experiencing right now we could talk but that whole long distance thingy would suck.  :p
Of course you know I am teasing. Sheesh been a long time since I was one of those | 
05-24-2001, 03:00 AM
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| | Being the parent of an almost-teenage girl, I get very concerned about Hollywood's standards of beauty.
My daughter is very slender (about 5' 1" and 88 pounds.) She has gained about 10 pounds and grown several inches in the past year because she's going through puberty.
Sometimes she will say things like, "I wish I was as thin as a pencil" or "I have thunder thighs!" (Take it from me, she doesn't even have sunshower thighs.)
She has some friends who are heavier who are interested in dieting, and she has been giving them moral support and advice to help them reach their goals.
I am not concerned about anorexia because she seems to be eating normally, but I do hope that she realizes she doesn't have to weigh 88 pounds the rest of her life in order to meet Hollywood's standard of beauty. |  | |
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