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03-14-2005, 12:44 PM
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An Oregon inn won't rent rooms to Bush voters. Ironically, their website states "We Welcome Diversity".  http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/13/125757.shtml
How they would know this unless you have it tattooed on your forehead....
It's most likely a ploy to get some national attention to a failing run-down motel. |
03-14-2005, 12:53 PM
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Huh. I went to the hotel's site, no mention of "no Bush voters" anywhere that I could see, but they do bill themselves as eco-friendly and ban smokers. Fox News says they spoke with an employee who confirmed the policy, though.
It's not necessarily in "violation" of their creedo to appreciate diversity though, IMO, because they word it "WE WELCOME DIVERSITY:
Respecting the interdependence & diversity of all nature loving species;" and if they consider supporting Bush's environmental policies to be in antipathy to "nature loving species," so be it.
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03-14-2005, 01:49 PM
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Quote: | realtraveller said
An Oregon inn won't rent rooms to Bush voters. Ironically, their website states "We Welcome Diversity". http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/13/125757.shtml
How they would know this unless you have it tattooed on your forehead....
It's most likely a ploy to get some national attention to a failing run-down motel. | Did you visit their web site? The pictures don't look like it's run-down at all. It looks like it's pretty much out of the way, but you'd think they could keep the place full with the rates they are charging.
You're right about one thing, there's no way for them to know unless you tell them. Even then, if you've pre-paid for the room, I doubt they'd throw you out, because they'd have to refund your money, since there's no notice about that particular peculiarity on their web site.
Hummers are bigger than most other SUV's and wider - wider might be the problem. Maybe their access roads aren't wide enough for a hummer. THAT is a scary thought and may be why the rates are so low.
Not renting to smokers is increasingly common. No pets makes sense for a place like that - and again is quite common.
They certainly have the right to be selective about tenants, but I don't know how they'd know who you voted for if you don't tell them.
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03-14-2005, 02:16 PM
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I’m shaking my Do Not Disturb sign in anger!
Wild guess: if Oregon were to pass a law stating that innkeepers could not discriminate based on political views, NewsMax would rant about the socialism inherent in such “special rights” legislation. |
03-14-2005, 02:33 PM
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Maybe they got some flack over this and took that off the website. Most of rural Oregon is red territory and they risked offending potential customers. |
03-14-2005, 02:42 PM
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03-14-2005, 03:07 PM
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Thanks for the cached page, Erik.
I think they have every right to behave that way. And I have every right to roll my eyes at them. Lovely people, I'm sure.
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03-14-2005, 03:11 PM
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Just makes them look petty. |
03-14-2005, 03:30 PM
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Quote: | theworm said
Just makes them look petty. | "Petty" to some, "principled" to others. Depends on how high environmental issues are on your agenda and how you feel about Bush's policies concerning them.
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03-14-2005, 03:34 PM
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Oh, I'm not happy about Bush's environmental stance, but I don't think that is reason to judge people who voted for him. The elections are complicated, and many people who I know who don't like his environmental and domestic policies voted for him because of his international policies. I don't think it's for me to judge others - though I certainly can disagree with them. To me, they look petty by phrasing it the way that they did. They would have been better off stating what their envorinmental position is and that individuals who disagree shouldn't stay there. Lumping all Bush supporters together is, IMO, not respecting diversity and judging others. I think they absolutely have the right to "Ban" Bush supporters, but I think its a petty way to make a point. I can understand how some can view this as principled, but I don't see it that way at all. |
03-14-2005, 03:39 PM
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Quote: | theworm said
I can understand how some can view this as principled, but I don't see it that way at all. | Which is why I said "Depends on how high environmental issues are on your agenda and how you feel about Bush's policies concerning them." We're saying the same thing: some people will see it as a principled stand, some will see it as petty.
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03-14-2005, 03:45 PM
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| | Re No Room At The Inn For Bush Voters | |
Someone may have stayed there and THEN told them who they voted for. They might even have liked that person.
Maybe they even had a change of heart -- for all the reasons Wormie gives about not judging people based on who they voted for.
I don't see it as particularly principled to presume that everyone who voted a particular way holds all the same positions as the candidate. Dumb too. I could go stay there, intelligently discuss environmental issues, and show them my voter registration card as I'm leaving.
What could they do about that?
It's a little too far for me to really do that, but someone else may very well have done exactly that.
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03-14-2005, 03:45 PM
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Quote: | theworm said
Oh, I'm not happy about Bush's environmental stance, but I don't think that is reason to judge people who voted for him. The elections are complicated, and many people who I know who don't like his environmental and domestic policies voted for him because of his international policies. I don't think it's for me to judge others - though I certainly can disagree with them. To me, they look petty by phrasing it the way that they did. They would have been better off stating what their envorinmental position is and that individuals who disagree shouldn't stay there. Lumping all Bush supporters together is, IMO, not respecting diversity and judging others. I think they absolutely have the right to "Ban" Bush supporters, but I think its a petty way to make a point. I can understand how some can view this as principled, but I don't see it that way at all. | Amen to that!
Let's put it this way. It looked like a lovely place to stay...I was very happy with how respectful they are of the coast on which they live. But when they singled out half my family with one ignorant swipe, it was no longer a nice place to stay.
Guess they won't be converting anybody on behalf of their environmental causes. Because even if these people wanted to try a place that respects the environment, they have been told flat out that the aren't allowed.
Again, they have every right to feel that way and to isolate themselves in that manner. But to me, it just looks as fanatical as those who live in self-imposed fortresses waiting for the government to take them away. I mean, think of it...they just told half of the voting population of this country not to bother with them. And those people have family and friends. And so on.
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03-14-2005, 03:53 PM
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They also could have had to mediate arguments (a la our old Soapbox) between Dem guests and Rep guests and could have said, "The heck with being referee."
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03-14-2005, 03:57 PM
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Quote: | mjfrombuffalo said
They also could have had to mediate arguments (a la our old Soapbox) between Dem guests and Rep guests and could have said, "The heck with being referee." |
And Democrats never disagree with democrats?
I'm not buying that one
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03-14-2005, 03:57 PM
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I highly doubt that. I would imagine any Bush voter who appreciates an environmentally friendly hotel would also be respectful of others who do. And the Soapbox, being that it is virtual, was more conducive to angry words. Having to share a beach with people surely humbles you.
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03-14-2005, 04:42 PM
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Where do they say they wouldn't rent rooms to Bush voters? Is this a real story or a made-up one? |
03-14-2005, 04:42 PM
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Quote: | mjfrombuffalo said
They also could have had to mediate arguments (a la our old Soapbox) between Dem guests and Rep guests and could have said, "The heck with being referee." | 
Well - THERE'S a reason that I CAN understand!!!
though I would think that most people who stay there, regardless of their political affiliations, have similar environmental views. |
03-14-2005, 04:43 PM
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Where do they say they wouldn't rent rooms to Bush voters? Is this a real story or a made-up one? |
It's off the web now, but it is on the google archived page that Erik posted. |
03-14-2005, 04:52 PM
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Quote: | jgibson2 said
And Democrats never disagree with democrats?
I'm not buying that one | Quote: |
I highly doubt that. I would imagine any Bush voter who appreciates an environmentally friendly hotel would also be respectful of others who do. And the Soapbox, being that it is virtual, was more conducive to angry words. Having to share a beach with people surely humbles you.
| Of course Dems argue with Dems and Reps argue with Reps. But as we ourselves have seen, sometimes the Dems vs. Reps arguments get entirely out of hand. And BTW, my original comment was half-humerous, half-serious, so buy it or not, it was meant for an ironic chuckle.
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03-14-2005, 04:54 PM
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It's off the web now, but it is on the google archived page that Erik posted.
| Oh, ok I see it now --> Quote: |
No Bush Voters (due to his environmental destructive policies e.g.; nonparticipation in Kyoto Treaty, The Clear Skies Act, continuation of naval sonar in marine mammal habitats...)
| Well ... it seems wrong to me for hotels to discriminate in any way in terms of who they will rent to.
It would be a bigger deal if this were a bigger hotel (it looks like they only have five rooms), but I still don't like it. |
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