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11-14-2005, 12:09 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Well, speaking as a Discordian, and one who has conciously chosen the goddes of chaos as her patron diety, I can honestly say that god just isn't one of the people I put the most trust in.
I don't honestly trust money that much either. I think I trust both of them about the same, actually.
So his move makes perfect sense to me.
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11-14-2005, 12:10 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | While I wouldn't want old money pulled from circulation, I wouldn't be too torn up if the phrase was removed from newer bills.
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11-14-2005, 12:12 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | And, hey, if they do take the phrase off the currency, then the money we're holding right now may actually be worth something in a couple years, as it becomes rarer and therefore collectible.
Of course, we could get the same effect by getting rid of Bush in a couple years, but why NOT kill two birds with one stone?
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11-14-2005, 12:20 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | To paraphrase from another thread:with all the real problems in the world, this guy concerns himself with this minutae.
Any bets on whether Newdow has a website to raise donations? I'd bet he does (and I haven't googled), and I'll also bet he'd take those "In God We Trust" bills without hesitation. | 
11-14-2005, 12:26 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Yup. I googled and found it. http://www.restorethepledge.com/
Got to keep his name in the papers to keep the donations coming in. | 
11-14-2005, 12:31 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Thanks for the link!
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11-14-2005, 01:32 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | How exactly does Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion get turned into slapping In God We Trust on all the currency?
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11-14-2005, 02:09 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | I much prefer, "In God we trust, everyone else pays cash." | 
11-14-2005, 02:15 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | As Eris said - thanks for the link!
I have mixed feelings. If Newdow succeeds, how then will I be able to prove the anti-Atheist conspiracy is alive and well?
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11-14-2005, 02:55 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Today the Supreme Court refused to hear a case; in effect affirming a 4th Circuit decision allowing "In God We Trust" to remain on government buildings. www.scotusblog.com
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11-14-2005, 06:13 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Anyway, what is it exactly that we trust God to do? Lately he seems rather fond of wiping out whole cities and killing people by the tens of thousands, and indeed he could always be relied upon to do that, but that's probably not what most people mean.
It's always struck me as funny that after these disasters people go off and pray. It's like people are battered and abused spouses and children, always hoping that they can placate their abuser enough so that he won't beat them again. Aren't earthquakes and hurricanes the very definition of "Acts of God"?
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11-14-2005, 06:56 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Quote: |
It's always struck me as funny that after these disasters people go off and pray. It's like people are battered and abused spouses and children, always hoping that they can placate their abuser enough so that he won't beat them again. Aren't earthquakes and hurricanes the very definition of "Acts of God"?
| Though if God were like an abusive spouse, then it would make sense to try and placate him, since it's not possible to get a divorce and move to the next Universe over.
Come to think of it, that may have some bearing on this thread. Maybe people are afraid that if they remove the inscription from the coins, God will get offended and lose his temper and take it out on them? | 
11-14-2005, 07:30 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Quote: | AuntieEmma said
Come to think of it, that may have some bearing on this thread. Maybe people are afraid that if they remove the inscription from the coins, God will get offended and lose his temper and take it out on them? | Ask Pat Robertson.
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11-14-2005, 07:50 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Quote: | AuntieEmma said
Come to think of it, that may have some bearing on this thread. Maybe people are afraid that if they remove the inscription from the coins, God will get offended and lose his temper and take it out on them? | Or, conversely, maybe some people are scared that if they see the words, "In God We Trust" on currency (and on the sides of buildings), that they'll be forced to become some religious nutcase and lose all sense of individuality and free will. | 
11-14-2005, 08:16 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Quote: |
Or, conversely, maybe some people are scared that if they see the words, "In God We Trust" on currency (and on the sides of buildings), that they'll be forced to become some religious nutcase and lose all sense of individuality and free will.
| But the Constitutional test isn't whether it would be good, bad, or neutral for one's development as an individual to see those words. | 
11-14-2005, 09:50 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Quote: | drmomentum said
Ask Pat Robertson.
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11-14-2005, 11:29 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | I agree that neither is in the mainstream.
But one seems to get a lot more exposure.
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11-14-2005, 11:41 PM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Yeah, when I initially saw this thread, my first thought was Who? | 
11-15-2005, 02:37 AM
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| | Re Michael Newdow Is At It Again | | Quote: | AuntieEmma said
Though if God were like an abusive spouse, then it would make sense to try and placate him, since it's not possible to get a divorce and move to the next Universe over. | Working on it. I'll let you guys know when I get some res
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