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05-08-2007, 05:06 PM
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Farmed fish given meal tainted with melamine - Pet Health - MSNBC.com
A company that certified that all it's foods ingredients (and the ingredients of the ingredients) were American grown would make a fortune.
Until then it's wild salmon, grass-fed beef and free-range chicken.
But what about my bread, cereal and pasta?
The Chinese don't really care what poisons they send us to eat. |
05-11-2007, 04:16 AM
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I don't think they're doing it on purpose. They haven't figured out how NOT to poison their own people either.
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05-11-2007, 10:13 AM
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No, that company did do it on purpose. Adding the melamine to wheat flour tricked the tests making it look as though the product had more protein than it really did. Apparently it wasn't wheat gluten, it was wheat flour with this melamine added. And the Chinese refuse to permit FDA inspectors into their plants. |
05-11-2007, 10:35 AM
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Okay, this is totally off topic, but I heard a comment on the radio this morning that the FDA was investigating the warehouses where they manufactured the tainted pet food....they were looking into the
"Weapons of Pet Destruction" 
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05-11-2007, 10:42 AM
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The Chinese don't really care what poisons they send us to eat.
| All 1.2 billion of them? That's a lot of uncaring people. |
05-11-2007, 10:58 AM
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I'll restate. I don't think the intent was to poison and they clearly don't have an equivalent to our FDA. Yes, the people who added the melamine were heartless and only out to make a buck, but the people who bought the stuff should have a clue about the state of the food supply in China and TEST anything they import from that country.
Personally, I'd love to see any food items with ANY imported components labeled as to country of origin -- and no, I wouldn't buy any food items with any components from China. They don't have their act together there.
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05-11-2007, 12:06 PM
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Quote: jgibson2 said
 I'll restate. I don't think the intent was to poison and they clearly don't have an equivalent to our FDA. Yes, the people who added the melamine were heartless and only out to make a buck, but the people who bought the stuff should have a clue about the state of the food supply in China and TEST anything they import from that country.
Personally, I'd love to see any food items with ANY imported components labeled as to country of origin -- and no, I wouldn't buy any food items with any components from China. They don't have their act together there. |
Yep, what she said. First, the supplier did it on purpose. Second, the importer was after the cheapest possible ingredients, and they managed to do that. I'm still cooking one meal for the digs, and feeding them a premium dogfood made from human food grade ingredients for the other.
And what she said about wanting labeling laws here. I would also want to know about genetically altered food and irradiated food as well, and we do that to ourselves. |
05-11-2007, 12:59 PM
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Quote: jgibson2 said
Personally, I'd love to see any food items with ANY imported components labeled as to country of origin -- and no, I wouldn't buy any food items with any components from China. They don't have their act together there.
| That's basically what I'd like to see also. Or have food companies voluntarily market their products with labels that indicate "All ingredients grown in the United States" or equivalent labeling. Seems as though companies would jump on this as a good marketing tool. |
05-12-2007, 07:41 AM
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I think you'd really have to go beyond organic to macrobiotic. Organic doesn't guarantee it was grown/fed here. |
05-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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Macrobiotic stuff that we buy is labeled. A fair amount comes from China. I don't think that China is the problem as much as wanting to know about standards in other countries period, not just in one. There are things I won't buy, like produce from Mexico. Until Chile changed its regularions on pesticides, I wouldn't buy fruit from there. Up here, produce at least has to show country of origin on a label or sign. |
05-12-2007, 12:56 PM
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Does Canada label differently? Macrobiotic is locally grown and organic. |
05-12-2007, 04:57 PM
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The stuff I have seen in the stores was a lot of dried stuff. The dried cod or whatever that fishy stuff is is from China. A soybean paste which is not miso was imported fro both China and Japan. There were not a lot of fresh things, but none of it was from Canada. |
05-13-2007, 10:39 AM
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Even American cattle and chickens fed American feed have problems.
Americans have been pumping their cattle and chicken up with antibiotics and hormones for years. I think it's one of the reasons why kids reach puberty so young nowadays.
And, in terms of fish, many of our waters have high levels of mercury due to corporate dumping of waste and an administration that winks at it. |
05-13-2007, 10:46 AM
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Melamine: new Mad Cow?
We report, you decide. | |
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