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07-21-2007, 08:20 PM
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| | My Saturday has been "lovely".
After having nightmares about work, I woke at 7 before the alarm. I've been meaning to rip out the overgrown hedges out front and replant, and early morning is a good time to do that - before it gets too hot.
I was out there at 7:30 with my saw - hacking at branches of the tree that was left mis-shapen after the hurricane. At 7:31 I got stung by a bee. So much for trimming the tree. By 8:00 it was two hot. Two hours later I had had about enough of gardening for the day.
Took a shower, ran out and did some errands - had to deal with one ass-hat, but got things done. Stopped at the diner for a healthy lunch and came back home - exhausted. Layed down for a nap, and managed to sleep for about 20 minutes - had nightmares about work. Woke to booming thunder, crackes of lightening, electric surges and hurricane like winds. That lasted about 3 hours. Now it's quiet.
I'm tired.
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07-21-2007, 08:30 PM
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| | Got up, made breakfast, piddled around for a while, waffling between doing a few chores and reading. Ate lunch, went to Sam's to pick up some pictures that Sean took of the wedding, then went home. Hopped around anxiously looking out the window every five minutes, looking for the UPS guy.  Harry finally arrived via the USPS, not UPS, go figure. I managed to squeeze in a chapter and a half before having to break to go make dinner. Then Joseph had the nerve and the gall to steal it from me! And he's still reading it! 
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07-21-2007, 10:34 PM
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| | Worked on the Bathroom!!!
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07-21-2007, 10:36 PM
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| | Melanie-you should have ordered TWO copies-at least
I worked, now I'm home not cleaning or packing.
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07-21-2007, 11:30 PM
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| | Made a bunch of jewelry. Forced the kid to mow the west 40. Took the kid to the pool. Told him "too bad" when he called after 30 minutes to say he was bored and left him there another 2 hours (am I a bad mom??? I have to drive 30 minutes to take him to the pool and back!). Made more jewelry. Watched hubby demolish the walnut tree on the east 40. Went for a walk and visited with my friend who is back from her bike ride. Finished up a couple of pieces of jewelry (findings and such in the tumbler). Now going to watch a little TV with hubby and go to bed.
No nap.  Too busy being productive.
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07-21-2007, 11:55 PM
|  | In Spanish, I'm Marijuana | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lawn-Guy-Land, NY
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| | Exercised, cleaned house a bit, went to a friend's for a cookout, now back home... I should be finishing the cleaning and cooking some stuff for tomorrow (friends coming over after church for planning a fundraiser for the fall and I have to feed them), but I had three glasses of wine... so I think I'll just get up early tomorrow. Hope that works out...
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07-22-2007, 12:15 AM
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| | Worked all day getting ready for a wedding reception. Will feed 200 BBQ at 3 tomorrow afternoon. | 
07-22-2007, 02:05 AM
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07-22-2007, 02:34 AM
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| | On Call. Gonna go sleep in my own bed unless disaster strikes.
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07-22-2007, 03:30 AM
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| | Drove to Portland this morning for stats lab and sat in an empty classroom for three hours waiting for students who evidently had better things to do. Got caught up on grading and finished a PowerPoint presentation that I'll give next weekend at the Marine Parents United conference. Stopped in at John's and did a load of laundry while I printed my presentation, then picked up a friend at the airport and took her home. Bought 50 pairs of mens white socks for another friend's 50th birthday party - her gift list asked us to bring 50 of anything that could be put into Operation Santa stockings. We're starting early this year.  Stopped in at the party and now I'm home and happy.
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07-22-2007, 07:11 AM
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| | OMG Deb, that is a fabulous idea!!!  to your friend! | 
07-22-2007, 10:36 AM
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| | I absolutely  that idea!
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07-22-2007, 11:19 AM
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| | Not so good.
It's the one year anniversary of my daughter's breakup with the boy she thought was the love of her life.....Around this time last year, I couldn't get her out of bed for a week.
Yes, she has dated others, even one boy who was much, much nicer (who unfortunately moved to Texas.)
Right now she and the ex have been making tenuous moves towards friendship. He was supposed to come over last night and watch a movie, but then he couldn't because his mom wanted him to come home right from work because his sister and nephew were visiting from 200 miles away.
But here's the worst part. We were out at dinner and she was home. When we came home, she had a serious friction burn on her arm (or maybe a chemical burn.) She said she had spilled something on herself and grabbed a sponge, but it was the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. I still don't know if she did it on purpose or by accident. It's all wrapped up, but I think it may be a second degree burn, and will probably take her to an urgent care today.
I watched a movie with her on DVD, and then a boy she's been seeing casually was going to stop by after his band was done performing.
She does take an anti-depressant (started after the breakup with the boy and the one week in bed....) She went to a therapist for a few months (every two weeks) but never felt like she broke through a barrier where she felt comfortable communicating.
And I am ready to have an anxiety attack...... | 
07-22-2007, 12:11 PM
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| | You do know, of course, that you're getting those "mom vibes" that tells us when things are not right or as they seem? Those, "I wish I didn't know (because I'm not sure what to do about it) but my gut tells me there is an issue that I'm going to have to figure out how to deal with it" kind of feelings. From working with kids, it always surprises me how many turn to hurting themselves. Most parents don't even know that it happens and yet I see it a few times each year in my small school, in my small town, filled with nice kids and normal families.
I don't have any advice other than to stay alert especially now. I also don't think that was long enough for therapy....kids can dig in for a long time without opening up and for many months they try to control the situation between them and the therapist. You may need to suggest therapy again (and have to put up with her resistance once again.)
My thoughts and prayers are with you both.
This is for you
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07-22-2007, 12:24 PM
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07-22-2007, 12:39 PM
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| | Quote: frazzledspice said
Not so good.
It's the one year anniversary of my daughter's breakup with the boy she thought was the love of her life.....Around this time last year, I couldn't get her out of bed for a week.
Yes, she has dated others, even one boy who was much, much nicer (who unfortunately moved to Texas.)
Right now she and the ex have been making tenuous moves towards friendship. He was supposed to come over last night and watch a movie, but then he couldn't because his mom wanted him to come home right from work because his sister and nephew were visiting from 200 miles away.
But here's the worst part. We were out at dinner and she was home. When we came home, she had a serious friction burn on her arm (or maybe a chemical burn.) She said she had spilled something on herself and grabbed a sponge, but it was the Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. I still don't know if she did it on purpose or by accident. It's all wrapped up, but I think it may be a second degree burn, and will probably take her to an urgent care today.
I watched a movie with her on DVD, and then a boy she's been seeing casually was going to stop by after his band was done performing.
She does take an anti-depressant (started after the breakup with the boy and the one week in bed....) She went to a therapist for a few months (every two weeks) but never felt like she broke through a barrier where she felt comfortable communicating.
And I am ready to have an anxiety attack...... | Antidepressants? In bed for a brief week? When did mourning a break up and feeling sad about something legitimate stop being ok?? Misdiagnosis of depression can be dangerous, and can lead to self abusive behaviors when patients are put on medications the don't need - that is one of the side effects of antidepressants when someone doesn't need them. Want further evidence that physicians are taking the easy way out by overprescribing antidepressants more and more often? Take a look at this list of diseases they are now [over] prescribed for here.
An article that discusses how some types of depression are missed and left untreated, some are treated incorrectly, and some are over treated can be found here. Quote: |
People often debate what would have happened to Van Gogh’s art if his doctor had treated him with modern antidepressants. The discussion shouldn’t centre on his artistic flair, but on the effect treatment would have had on his behaviour. Would antidepressants have made him more agitated, aggressive and obviously crazy? To have given Van Gogh Prozac, without any accompanying antipsychotic or similar drug, would have been to risk immediate disaster – Prozac can induce hyper-mania in some people. Van Gogh’s first incident of self-mutilation might then not just have resulted in a missing ear.
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07-22-2007, 06:30 PM
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| | Not knowing the whole story or personally knowing the people involved, it's difficult to chime in here. Leslie is right that a breakup should be a sad situation but not require medication, unless there were other issues already and the breakup was a trigger that exacerbated the underlying problem(s). I can only say pay attention to your instincts and talk with her (asking her point-blank if she has thoughts of hurting herself is NOT going to put the idea in her head, as I'm sure you already know). It may be nothing, it may be a bump in the road, it may be something, none of us can say. Meanwhile :hugs: to you and I'm sorry you're going through this type of worry.
Meanwhile, today I went to the beach. I did NOT swim - unless, of course, Brian tells me I'm wrong and I really DID swim. 
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07-22-2007, 06:48 PM
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| | Made a bracelet/necklace/earring set. Photo'd a bunch of stuff and it didn't turn out horrible. Fixed my earring display that SOMEONE broke  Mowed the front lawn and got really dirty  Drank a bunch of water because it's really hot outside.
I want a shower and a nap.
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07-22-2007, 10:18 PM
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| | Spent 3 hours in Walmart purgatory, waiting around at the portrait studio while Erin and Joseph were getting pictures with our friends who got married last weekend. I took photos, but they're not good for blowups, so they wanted some inexpensive portraits, too. One person running the place doesn't make for a smooth time. Especially when someone comes in to pick up their baby's pictures and they are terrible, when the guy who took them had told her not to worry, they would edit out the snot and stuff. 
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07-22-2007, 10:27 PM
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| | Well, after she finished work today I took her to the urgent care center. They said it was a "superficial second degree burn" and gave her an antibiotic (sulfa) cream, and said she should call if she doesn't feel better by tomorrow.
She didn't start taking the antidepressant right after sleeping for a week. The week before high school started she had a mild cutting episode, and that freaked me out. What she's taking is very mild (lexapro 10 mg.) In any case, she stopped taking it around January. About a month ago, she started getting some panic attacks (the first one was when she saw the ex bf was working in the Wal-Mart nearest our house...) She tends to be a drama queen, and so, to be conservative, I looked up lexapro and it said it has also helped with panic. I said to her, "You haven't taken lexapro for six months....let's try it every day for a month, make note of any symptoms, and then go back to the doctor." (I knew if we went with the new symptom, she would think she was still taking the lexapro.)
She's ADD (medicines gave her twitches and side effects, so she stopped taking them.) Bright, creative. Extremely talented vocally, and quite talented in designing and sewing. Lots of markers for being a little bit flaky....
It's because of the cutting last August that made me concerned about this episode on the first anniversary of the breakup...
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07-23-2007, 01:05 AM
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| | Frazz, antidepressants aren't something that anyone should go on and off of without consulting a doctor, especially if it's for something that wasn't there when the doctor first made the recommendation.
As for the cutting, as a long-time cutter, I can tell you that meds don't fix that. The only thing that's going to fix that is counseling, and a lot of it. | |