I don't think people read or listen anymore

[slick4591[$]]

www.schlosserdef.com

Please read this site and tell me what you would do if you found your name on it.

[theworm[$]]

well, at the risk of seeming stupid, if I saw my name in the top list I would probably send you and e-mail and say "yeah, whatever, I'll be there" or call you and say, "my water broke and I'm in labor - you won't see me today".
If I were part of the bottom list I'd dance around saying "I don't have to testify".

So - how many phone calls have you received about when people should appear and how long it will take?

[drmomentum[$]]

The message is not at all unclear. It is extremely clear. I mean, it's right there in big bold type.

I bet people are reading that big bold message and just going ahead and ignoring it, clicking the first email address that they see. I hope they're not calling.

I have some experience with people who don't read or listen. And the lengths to which they will go.

I get angry emails frequently for a humor piece that I reprinted (I didn't even write the thing) and, the thing is, the people who are angry at me are people who agree with me. They didn't get the joke, even after I added an explanation that it was satire, and even after I pointed out the source of the joke (which should have tipped them off as to the motivation behind it).

Also, I used to get regular messages on my blog because people were confusing me with Netflix. No lie. People will go out of their way to be confused.

-JP

[slick4591[$]]

Not exactly what happened, but in the neighborhood.

Last Friday I had all 52 witnesses gathered in the courtroom and each one filled out a personal history sheet giving home, cell, work and next of kin and so forth. Everyone had internet except one and she could use her daughter's.

I handed out information sheets with the web site's address and instructions to e-mail me when they saw they had to be there. I went over it with them and I explained that I would have to call them on the phone at whatever time necessary to make sure they would be in court. I asked if anyone had any questions about the sheet and none were asked. I then asked the judge to come in and swear the witnesses in and he instructed them that they could come and wait everyday or use the instruction sheet that was given to them. The judge ask if anyone had any questions. No one replied.

Now we're talking a range of people from civilians, EMTs, RNs, social workers, teachers, MDs, police officers (patrol people, Sgts and Lts), counselors and shrinks.

Recon how many followed the instructions? 12! One stinkin' dozen! Out of three witnesses this morning I had to call two of them. Both were asleep and I was glad of it.

Where's all the little pissed off smiles?

[theworm[$]]

it's pathetic

[mjfrombuffalo[$]]

Actually, I'd be pissed beyond belief that you were putting my name on a website in connection with a trial. I'd much rather get an email sent to me with the same content.

[slick4591[$]]

Actually, I'd be pissed beyond belief that you were putting my name on a website in connection with a trial. I'd much rather get an email sent to me with the same content.

Lessee. No one except the participants knows the website address (now you do and the trial is not far from being over). Your name (not personal history) gets put up for 12 or so hours.

Now, the clerk of the court holds an application that not only has your name on it, but your address as well. Could even give an alternative address such as your work. Not to mention phone numbers which can added to an application. All this for just the asking because it's a public document.

Why don't we find a reason to get pissed?

[mjfrombuffalo[$]]

People found out Suffolk County Long Island posted its public real estate transactions on the Web. Included names and social security numbers. Granted, it's public information but I'd rather have someone have to go to the clerk's office and weed through the paperwork to get it instead of having someone find it by Googling my name. Call me crazy, but it took me six months to undo the last time someone stole my identity. I wouldn't want to be easily tracked in a trial situation either, especially if I had only a minor part in the trial and the outcome of the trial was not popular.

But out of curiosity, why not just send the info email? Just as easy (if not easier) and more private.

[ms_n]

I think it has been statistically proven that human beings from birth are programmed to listen 1 out of 450 times. Just keep trying. They'll get it sometime after the trial.

[slick4591[$]]

Individual e-mails could have happened if that were put into the plan. It was not because as a case being paid for by the state the most cost effective measure were taken.

But you could satisfy your curosity and Google this case just to see if you can find the site. The thing went up on the 10th. I used no meta tags nor did I submit it to any search engines. The duration of hosting is for 30 days. And you're fooling yourself if you picture some guy going through stacks of papers to get a subpoena application. Once you get the file it might take five minutes to get to the application.

[mjfrombuffalo[$]]

Hey, you wanted to know what we would do if we found our names on the list. I happen to be a privacy nut. You might run in to one or two out there once in a while.

Doesn't seem as though it would cost more to take the same text and send out a blanket email to a distribution list though. When there's a change, copy the text from the last email, paste in a new message, edit what needs to be changed, then send once to the distribtion list. Should take 2-3 minutes if you're sending in plain text. That's how it's being done in the lawsuit I've got experience with. We've had good luck with that method, people tend to actually read their email instead of remembering to go to a website. Just a suggestion.

[Joubert[$]]

I'm with MJ, bud. Sorry. First call I would make would be to my own attorney to see if it was actionable. (Yeah, I know, I shoot first...)

But I'm still with MJ. Hell, my name is in at least one trial's decision posted on the web, and I still ain't crazy about the ease with which the public record can be found.

If the people didn't follow directions, what's wrong with making them show and posting a sign at the courthouse?

[theworm[$]]

I can understand your feelings MJ and Joub. The thing is, that this was all explained at an in-person meeting. IF I were involved, I very well might go up to Mr. Hughes after the meeting and tell him that I am not at all comfortable with having my name on the site and seeing if he would accomodate taking my name off and making other arrangements.

[Joubert[$]]

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[slick4591[$]]

I saw it, George, but how would you ever have gained any of that info if I hadn't led you there? News reports and so on will have that info and can be gained from there, but for the limited time my site listed anything I don't think you or anyone would have found it without a map.

[Joubert[$]]

Granted. Just that people feel ooky about that. Let me go wipe it.


I think it used to be that it took people a lot of effort to gather so much public info rather than minutes. (shrug) Doesn't bother me any, but I know it gets some folks really ticked off.

[wivabef]

The site is inactive, now.

[slick4591[$]]

I took it down after it served its purpose.